For me, this was quite a shock! I feel for you, Electra, your family, and Liath and all who worked with him. I looked to him for all things ethical and tech related. I was so grateful to first have learned from him in this topic area much too late (because no one else taught it), but really just in time, so to speak, possibly 10-15 years ago at a training he did in the South Seattle area. When he began Office Hours, it was an easy leap to join that and stay with it/him all these years. I have benefited so much from his advice, even consulting with him on a sticky issue once. And he was generous with his offerings, providing some free courses for us, one of which was about beginning to do Telehealth when most of us went home to work due to COVID. I recommend him to those I supervise and my counseling colleagues. I still have so many Roy classes I want to catch up on in my learning portfolio. Patty Swanson, MA LMFT-LMHC in Lakewood, WA